Comments on: 23 - Live/Promo Shots + IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO LOCAL MEDIA http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:43:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: OSS237.com - Ross Costigan Photography http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-291 OSS237.com - Ross Costigan Photography Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:19:38 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-291 [...] week the local papers publish everything and give credit where it’s due (They must have got my message) and at this stage myself and Ken should have our own radio show; at least one of us is being [...] […] week the local papers publish everything and give credit where it’s due (They must have got my message) and at this stage myself and Ken should have our own radio show; at least one of us is being […]

]]> By: The Crabling Otter » The Sound System Podcast#46 from Kilkenny Music http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-21 The Crabling Otter » The Sound System Podcast#46 from Kilkenny Music Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:16:40 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-21 [...] newspapers are stealing his work. Check out Ross’s photography at Oss237.com, just “don’t steal his shit“. If you want to support his artistic reputation, drop a comment on his blog [...] […] newspapers are stealing his work. Check out Ross’s photography at Oss237.com, just “don’t steal his shit“. If you want to support his artistic reputation, drop a comment on his blog […]

]]> By: Darren http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-20 Darren Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:59:27 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-20 The feckers. Sincerely, if this happens again, let me know. I know some legal types. Feckin' feckers!!! The feckers. Sincerely, if this happens again, let me know. I know some legal types. Feckin’ feckers!!!

]]> By: KilkennyMusic.com Staff Blog - Ross Costigan - Oss237 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-19 KilkennyMusic.com Staff Blog - Ross Costigan - Oss237 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:40:57 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-19 [...] week or so to do some promo-shots and work on the artwork for ‘The Brian Jones E.P’. My important message to local media received quite a good response and I’ve even been talking to some journalists who agreed with [...] […] week or so to do some promo-shots and work on the artwork for ‘The Brian Jones E.P’. My important message to local media received quite a good response and I’ve even been talking to some journalists who agreed with […]

]]> By: ray http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-18 ray Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:09:16 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-18 Hey Ross, Creative Commons is like an online form of copyright. http://creativecommons.org/ Its as good as the copyright symbol but can offer a little more flexibility and pretty much puts you on a register from what i can see. When you go to the site, you sign up, add the website/blog/name of project/whatever, you pick what people are allowed to do with your content, they give you a snippet of html code and you add it to your site. Now it doesnt stop anyone from actually taking your files and using them but it does give some legit come back. I also use the html it gives in a text file when putting work onto CD's. Hey Ross, Creative Commons is like an online form of copyright. http://creativecommons.org/ Its as good as the copyright symbol but can offer a little more flexibility and pretty much puts you on a register from what i can see.

When you go to the site, you sign up, add the website/blog/name of project/whatever, you pick what people are allowed to do with your content, they give you a snippet of html code and you add it to your site. Now it doesnt stop anyone from actually taking your files and using them but it does give some legit come back.

I also use the html it gives in a text file when putting work onto CD’s.

]]> By: admin http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-17 admin Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:26:22 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-17 Wow, a great response to this topic!? Okay my responses; To Ken: I know dude, I just think it's sad that KilkennyMusic has to spend precious funding we receive on things that venues and promoters who are making money should provide as standard! To Phil: Yeah, although I've only got a new flash I am wary of it being annoying or distracting during gigs. And a lot of the time it will kill any atmosphere provided by the poor lighting. As for papers not caring about photographers, well legally they have to dude! I've never asked to be paid by any of them but if they aren't going to extend the same courtesy they extend to all the other photographers in this town then I'd rather they didn't use my pics. Getting them printed is great but not if they are taking them without permission. It's a tricky situation to be in!? To Ray: Sorry dude, but what are creative commons? I'm lost!? To Joey: Thanks alot dude and I'm glad ye like the photos! Come back to KK soon! To Ray again: Yeah, it was a pretty difficult set to shoot, people flying everywhere! lol I think the reason they don't shoot it is because of the difficulty trying to shoot gigs like that. Like T said, they want to be able to show up, get a quick shot and leave. They can get paid and credited but do as little as possible. To T: Thanks a lot dude. I love doing what I do, and I've always tried to help out bands with photos, blogs, podcasts, whatever I can do to help. I'll continue to do so but I'm just not standing for this type of thing anymore. To you all: Thanks for your comments and it's great to see people feel strongly about this. =) Wow, a great response to this topic!?

Okay my responses;

To Ken:
I know dude, I just think it’s sad that KilkennyMusic has to spend precious funding we receive on things that venues and promoters who are making money should provide as standard!

To Phil:
Yeah, although I’ve only got a new flash I am wary of it being annoying or distracting during gigs. And a lot of the time it will kill any atmosphere provided by the poor lighting.
As for papers not caring about photographers, well legally they have to dude! I’ve never asked to be paid by any of them but if they aren’t going to extend the same courtesy they extend to all the other photographers in this town then I’d rather they didn’t use my pics. Getting them printed is great but not if they are taking them without permission. It’s a tricky situation to be in!?

To Ray:
Sorry dude, but what are creative commons? I’m lost!?

To Joey:
Thanks alot dude and I’m glad ye like the photos! Come back to KK soon!

To Ray again:
Yeah, it was a pretty difficult set to shoot, people flying everywhere! lol
I think the reason they don’t shoot it is because of the difficulty trying to shoot gigs like that. Like T said, they want to be able to show up, get a quick shot and leave. They can get paid and credited but do as little as possible.

To T:
Thanks a lot dude. I love doing what I do, and I’ve always tried to help out bands with photos, blogs, podcasts, whatever I can do to help. I’ll continue to do so but I’m just not standing for this type of thing anymore.

To you all: Thanks for your comments and it’s great to see people feel strongly about this. =)

]]> By: T http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-13 T Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:24:23 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-13 Fair dues have to be given Ross all around he’s the only person in this town I know apart for Ray who bothers coming to local gigs and taking photos of the bands not only that he stays at the gigs and actually listens to the band, plus he promotes the band by writing a blog about the band or commenting about them in a podcast. Most local newspaper photographers take two pictures at a gig, which they've been told they have to go to and then fuck off. He provided photos to papers on many occasions and a cant believe they decency to even credit the man on his only photos, he should getting paid for the pictures they use just like any other photographer. Fair dues have to be given Ross all around he’s the only person in this town I know apart for Ray who bothers coming to local gigs and taking photos of the bands not only that he stays at the gigs and actually listens to the band, plus he promotes the band by writing a blog about the band or commenting about them in a podcast.
Most local newspaper photographers take two pictures at a gig, which they’ve been told they have to go to and then fuck off.
He provided photos to papers on many occasions and a cant believe they decency to even credit the man on his only photos, he should getting paid for the pictures they use just like any other photographer.

]]> By: ray http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-12 ray Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:24:57 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-12 Joey "we all know that you are working on tuff condition between shity light and stage divers." Man, the 23 set was a bloody war zone!! I still have bruises!!!! I have to say, it is very difficult to shoot in those conditions. I would love to see some of the photographers for local papers give it a try!!! Joey
“we all know that you are working on tuff condition between shity light and stage divers.”

Man, the 23 set was a bloody war zone!! I still have bruises!!!! I have to say, it is very difficult to shoot in those conditions. I would love to see some of the photographers for local papers give it a try!!!

]]> By: Joey http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-11 Joey Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:44:06 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-11 It's a disgrace to see newspapers stealing,and that is the right word to use,some of your work. Hard work like yours should be rewarded because you are not just pressing a button hoping for the best! Your pictures are amazing and we all know that you are working on tuff condition between shity light and stage divers. As I said at the beginning:It's a disgrace. It’s a disgrace to see newspapers stealing,and that is the right word to use,some of your work.

Hard work like yours should be rewarded because you are not just pressing a button hoping for the best!
Your pictures are amazing and we all know that you are working on tuff condition between shity light and stage divers.

As I said at the beginning:It’s a disgrace.

]]> By: ray http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-10 ray Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:20:38 +0000 http://blog.oss237.com/2008/03/16/23-livepromo-shots/#comment-10 You would think it was such a simple request. "this photo was taken by..." It something i havnt experienced yet, mainly because no-one has ever really publish any of my work!!!! Bar a lighting tech guy up in dublin who did very nicely ask for permission. Conditions were simple, all i asked for was a little credit and i got it. Sound. I dont mind people taking pieces for their bebo and what not, as long as the watermark/email/signature stays on it and they refer me to people who ask but, if someone was to put my pieces in print, i would be very strict about the conditions. Papers and such have become very mean in the last number of years and it seems like they have forgotten about copyright laws in their attempts to reduce the price paid to photographers. Have you looked at adding creative commons on your site dude? You would think it was such a simple request. “this photo was taken by…” It something i havnt experienced yet, mainly because no-one has ever really publish any of my work!!!! Bar a lighting tech guy up in dublin who did very nicely ask for permission. Conditions were simple, all i asked for was a little credit and i got it. Sound. I dont mind people taking pieces for their bebo and what not, as long as the watermark/email/signature stays on it and they refer me to people who ask but, if someone was to put my pieces in print, i would be very strict about the conditions. Papers and such have become very mean in the last number of years and it seems like they have forgotten about copyright laws in their attempts to reduce the price paid to photographers.

Have you looked at adding creative commons on your site dude?

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